1974 12 02-CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES December 2,1974
Public Hearing -1975 Budget 8:00 p.m.
Members Present:Councilman Bob Hill,Bill Moe,Norm Johnson, Mike Boyle, Gordon Ebbert, Don
>Swanson,Otto Skaug.
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Pro-tern,Mike Boyle /£)J&
Boyle - Mr.Waggener isn't here tonight?
„Gagnier -That's correct.
^""•Boyle -And you are going to assume the responsibility of explaining to us infuller detail than what
CM we have here the workings ofthe 1975 Budget at this Public Hearing?Mr.Gagnier would you like to
.^5 i proceed?
O'£l3 Gagnier -You mightwant to open the public meeting first.
1 .Boyle -Okay,I would entertaina motion forthat, ordo you just want to have it declared open, as a
public meeting as such forthe purposes for the 1975 Budget forthe Cityof Moses Lake,public hearing
tonight whichis required on the first Monday in December.Any comments?
•Gagnier -Okay,basically gentlemen,I think probably the most rapidto review it would be to start
from the front and just work backwards.And start perhaps with the City Manager's letter of transmit
tal and then take each of the departments as they occur.As an introduction,basically the format that
we used on the budget this year is a continuation of the 1973 budget format with perhaps or hopefully more
detail as far as project information is concerned and an expandednarrative by department as to what
we plan on emphasizing duringthe 1975 calendar year. I would like to emphasizethat the budget is
balanced, to do so required revenue sharing money,we will point that money requirement out farther on
down in the budget.As last year the format deletes the actual line item budget amounts, these budget
amounts were used by the department head and the city managerin arriving with the summaries that you
have presented in the 1975 document.I'll skip over the tabulation in the middle ofthe budget letter if
possible, unless somebody has anyquestions, at anytime, if anybody would like to pose a question,
I would be more than happy to interrupt and go ahead and answer that if possible.
Forthe 1975 Budget Year the collective bargaining negotiations with the Police Department havenot yet
been completed.They have been started.Therefore we did not put in a salary figure for 1975 in any
of the salary figures yousee in the '75 budget at this point.We have put a contingency itemin the
general fund that we would use then to paythe payroll increases that might be grantedlater on.
In mid-1974 weadded three employees, we came to the Council about June, I believe it was,with the
new EEA funding that was federal funding continuationof the Equal Emergency Employment Act and has
*now worked into a CETA program,these positions will be funded through 1975. So the three people we
addedin mid-yearwere one in the engineering department and twoin the parks department and these are
basically maintenance men or beginning engineering tech positions.We also at that time deleted the
public works coordinator position from the engineering department and transferred that position down to
City Hall in the form ofan administrative assistant.Two additional people are budgeted and requested
by the Police Department,(1)a new patrolman and (2)the addition ofa clerkto answer the phone and
handle the radio,and thus relieve a patrolman of that responsibility;
Hill - Does that meanthat 24 hours a day you will have the women covering the telephone-radio?
Chief Baker- No,it doesn't,Mr.Hill.We have a woman covering the radio five shifts a week on day
shift now, and five shifts a week on swing shift.This added woman will be utilized to cover two days on
jiay shift,two days on swing shift,and one day on graveyard,which willin essence relieve a patrolman
from that radio-desk function for five days.It gives us one added patrolman in the street.
Gagnier - In the last collective bargaining contractthat we signed with the Fire Department we reduced
their hours and to maintain the present staff we require the addition of one fireman for 1975.One secre
tarial,position in the engineering department, public works, was eliminated and we also then hired, or
transferred that position in effect to the sanitation department and picked up a full time employee that used
to be part time.The Community Development Directorposition has been replaced with an Associate Planner
classification,Stan Bech now fills that position,and Buildingand Sanitation have been removed from the
public works department and now report directly to the City Manager as a seperate department all by itself.
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In the text of the Budget,-you will find that the engineering projects for water,sewer,street,arterial
street have been listed seperately with a short narrative as to what would be accomplished and what the
estimated 1975 costs might be.I would like to emphasize that they are 1975 costs and in some cases
where the project might lapse over into '75 or '77,we have not contained the estimate for what that
might be in those years in this particular document.We took the approach in the budget also,that
for those projects that we have made grant applications for,that we have not been awarded a grant
yet,and don't know for sure that we will get the money, we have not listed those as projects for
construction during 1975. If grant monies were to become available,such as with Well #31, we would
come back for an emergency budget ordinance to allocate the funds for construction purposes.On those
particular projects that we might be funded for.In fact,one of the changes that will be made to the
preliminary budget before it's finalized would be the addition of the money for the Well #31 crossing.
Some of the areas that we have not provided for in the budget that the Council might well want to
address would be the resurfacing of Third Avenue,the rebuilding of Division Street,the rebuilding of
Valley Road, paving of Monroe Street,paving of Nelson Road and Pioneer Way,local improvement dist
ricts for Penn Street,resurfacing of the Peninsula -Lakeside Drive loop,and acquisition of a neighbor
hood park near Gibby Road.These items were left out mainly because we didn't have the funds to include
them in this years budget.Are there any questions on the City Manager's letter that I might be able to
answer?
On Page 1, the recapulation of the tax levy,basically is the tax levy ordinance we adopted for 1975, the ^
only differences between 1974 and 1975 would be that we went to 100%valuation system,and we also had
imposed or continuation of the 106%limit on property tax which resulted in very little gain in property tax
revenues for 1975.
On Page 2,we have a comparison of general and street fund expenditures and revenues for 1975 versus
1974.Basically,again you see the property taxes for '74 and '75 really haven't changed at all,signif
icant increase of only $1500.Sales taxes is perhaps the brightest item on the list -it goes from
$265,000 to $300,000.That $300,000 is subject to revision at this time,depending on how the last
property tax payment for this year comes in.That might be revised upwards to $320,000 approximately.
That is,by the way,one of the few items that is responsive at all to inflation as inflationary trend goes
up,sales tax,being a percentage of sales,increases also.
Licenses and permits,is down by $15,000 -goes from $46,000 to $31,000-that basically shows a de
cline in our business licenses as well as miscellaneous permits that we might have.There is quite a
slop-over come the end of the year.There is a lot of dog registrations,bicycle registrations,and business
licenses that are purchased during December and January.And depending on which is the heavy month,
it makes the year total for that category go up and down, like some years you will be down very low and
the next year you will be up again.It just depends on when we mail out the business licenses and notifica
tion for permits.
Charges for Services has gone from $15,000 to $33,000 -that basically is just miscellaneous services
that we provide for citizens of the City such as perhaps engineering services,plan check fees,platting
fees,things like that.Again,that is a very voluble type of thing,up and down depending on what the
activity during the year is.Fines and forfeitures are down by $4500, I have talked to the Police Chief
a little bit about that and he once upon a time explained it to me and I'd be happy to let you do that again.
Baker - The only explanation for it is that the charges are still very important,but fines are being sus
pended and fines are smaller than they were.
Gagnier -Miscellaneous revenue is up by some $22,000.That basically is your interest earnings that,
have gone from $11,000 in '74 to $30,000 in '75.Federal grants have stayed the same,this basically is
a CETA program for those three positions that we funded during 1974 and continue into 1975.The state
grant for $48,000 was either Cascade Park or Larson Playfield.And that since was finished in '74 so will
not continue into '75.
The inter-fund payments jumped from $372,000 to $613,000 that basically reflects an increase that revenue
sharing transfer that balanced the general fund comes in here for $231,000 - $100,000 of which would be a
contingency for the new city Civic Center Complex. Also included in that would be engineering reimbursables
for the water/sewer fund and I'm sure that you have noticed that in 1975 we anticipate an aggressive con
struction program there,thereby incurring more engineering charges.That then,would contribute to that.
•Basically,then, in that particular figure then we have $231,000 in Revenue Sharing, approximately
$160,000 or $200,000 in water/sewer and another $100,000 in engineering reimbursables.Is there any
questions on the expenditures that you mightwant meto explore.Excuse me that would be revenues.
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Gagnier:In the expenditure area, basically we just give you the five breakdowns,personnel costs,
.supplies,other services,inter-fund payments and capital outlay. Personnel Charges represent a
sizable increase of $18,000 - this is again due to raising salary costs of our employees,and it also
includes some of the step raises that we have in our particular payroll plan.Supply costs are up
npminally by $7,000 -Other Services and Charges are up by some $226,000.Inter-fund Payments
were pombined in '74,they were seperated in '75 they have been combined intoother Services and
Charges basically there is a $100,000 difference for '75 versus 1974 where you combined those two
items. Capital Outlaywas $103,000 in "74 $137,000 in 1975 that basically represents $37,840 of
Inter-fund Transfers from the General fund to the Street Fund to balance.The Street fund is tax sup
ported, but very rarely is supported entirely by taxes.Normally,it takes a contribution from the
General Fundto balance that particular budget.The other $100,000 that you see in there basically is
a contingency for the Civic Center Complex.At this point, I might elaborate on that a little bit, there
is a twentyfour month expenditure requirement in revenue sharing funds and wayup until this point, I
have been saving as much money as possible for the new Civic Center area.If we do not spend that
money in 1975,the federal government can ask us to give it backto them.And so, by transferring the
money from the Revenue Sharing fund to a General Fund,we in effect, accordingto the federal govern
ment , have spent the money,so we therefore don't have to worry about losing it.Don't ask me how
come that meets the requirementand just leaving it there doesn't.Any questions on that?
The next sheet reflects the water/sewer fund,this basically has only about five major revenue items,
Miscellaneous Revenue,would again be interest earned.Water sales,sewer sales,I think that's fairly
self explanatory.There is a sizeable increase,somethingbetter than 10%there.Federal Grants are
down to zero, Sale of Bonds,again reflecting ourcapital expenditure projects for '75 go from $300,000
to $400,000 and Inter-fund Revenue is down by some $11,000 indicating that ourwater/sewer personnel
will be working on water/sewer projects instead of helping the street fundor the general fund.
Hill -How did you get the big jump in the water/sewer sales?
Gagnier - I don't know,it has just happened.Since the new rates wentinto effect,'74 revenues have
exceeded what we had initially budgeted by substantially more.
Hill -When did the new rates go into effect?
Gagnier - I think it was mid-1973.
Hill-Even though ??
Gagnier- Right. Water usage seems to be up. I haven't checked the gallonage.Maybe Macor Ron
could respond to that,but revenues definitely are on the increase.And that,frankly, is what we should
have expected.With the interest payments we have on the 1973 bonds, we very much needed to have an
increase to be able to pay for those bonds.So we should experience - I am sure it will not continue at
the 10 or 12%rate that we have seen over '74 and '75,but it should certainly be substantially better than
the 1973 revenues where -
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Ebbert -The base is using alot more water now.
Gagnier - If I remember correctly,their water/sewer charges out there have jumped substantially.
In their expenditure area,personnel costs have gone from $111,000 to $105,000.Honestly Gentlemen,
I have to admit that the water/sewer books are not maintained on the same chart of accounts schedule
as the rest of the city funds are,so there is somewhat of a difficulty in equating dollar for dollar -what
a personnel cost is,in the water/sewer department versus what a personnel cost is in the general fund.
So these figures were brought to conform with the rest of the City figures so that there would be some
sort of a commonality of meaning there.Whether that figure is $111,000 or $113,000, I wouldn't want
to stake myjob on.I think there is possibly that much error in each of those figures there.There is
a complete different chartof accounts.We would have to follow each expenditure itemfor item to really
make them comparable and didn't feel that degree of accuracy was needed.
Basically,then, we see the personnel costs going down. Basically we did not any where near spend
$111,000 for 1974. It looks like we will probably end up spending close to $102,000 for '74,and per
sonnel costs so even though it looks like we have gone down by some $6,000 in fact we have gone up
by about $3,000.Supply costs - nominal change - Other Services and Charges are down by some
$14,000 reflecting purchases of outside services such as utilities,electricity,various other things like
that.Inter-fund Payments are down,reflecting a -let me check my books,why are they down - I would
have to check on that Gentlemen,I don't have that reason right off.Capital Outlay is up by $260,000
again reflecting the projects that we have tentatively scheduled for 1975.Total budget goes up by some
$172,000.Any questions on the water/sewer fund? This water/sewer fund will be substantially explained
in more detail once we get back to the water/sewer fund as to what comprises the projects that we are
speaking of here.
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r^nnipr On oaae 4 you will find a summary of all the funds maintained by tie City.Basically,we
Total Operating Supplies,Capital Expenditures,Debt Services,etc-Between /Jtheinterestingthingsyoumightnoteisttetnomw.^^^V°en tack up again to $1,500,000.^^reflect r^rSo^acc^n^^uresf $^0,000 is acognation -these
two figures.Is there any questions on that?
,^u~r the caiarlP.5 listed inthe '75 budget basically reflect only these 1974 salary£L3S^^S^^^ootamed by each employee.Those are subject
to change upon finalization of the labor contract.
Moving to Page 11,we see basically atabulation£"Z™™^^*SsCg'idebted-Obllgatlon type bonds.Alder Street,Swimming Pool,M<^shP«rk.fcbrary tteness.You will notice that we are coming very close durln«*e ^0s^«m py
bonds and substantially pay offthe other two.As of 1974,DecemDer oi,we o yGeneralObligationBondsleavingusanavailable>^££»*«£gZ fo^s up'.Each^ear thU
Hill -Was there some supreme .court ruling prohibiting municipalities,or.:counties,
Gagnier- Not thatl amaware of.
Hill ?'•
Gagnier -Oh with the Port District they were planning on floating bonds to buy the Port Housing and thestatelegislationapplyingtoPorts,does not legally allow them to enter into -
Hill ?—
Gagnier - Ihaven't either.Iam unfamiliar with any changes that might have happened there.
in our water/sewer fund,we basically again list the bonds that we *^]^f£l£*i u6m7itationand'73.There is not an indebtedness U^tattoi «J ^^%££™L no longer buydependingonhowmanyyoucansell.Once you getto ithei «.,gtart
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liquidated.Any other questions on that?
Going to page 12.then.Summary of Estimated Revenue ^ZTZ^X^ZV^Ts^^General Fund One of the brigh,,spots r,revenues is due ££^KL.;taxes.^from
have increased their rates and this would show up in gros telephone company has raised$141,000 to $154,000.Ibelieve the gas «»••»£"^Sn^U ^again our revenues fluctuate dependingtheirs.I believe the electrical company either has or soon ""'•«?"»General Fund that I haven't al-on what their rates might be.l^^-^^^^J^^^^^L^earnings havereadysaidunlesstherearequestl«there..Q The ^^as mentloned earlier,is supported by thegonefromsomethingunder$11,000 to $30,000.btreet '"n°.property tax.You will noticeGeneralFundforanyexpenditurestheyhavein•excess^f *eir gas Ux and P^y ^^
that in their State-shared revenues "^J^.1^**££££.'gone from $45,000 to $42,000.Si.ce$60,000 that is again sh^^ZZ^TSL tLe perg^'^!The price of gas can go sky-high%%££aCteourreevean"ueesn:Tptbab'iy haVan invers'e effect because people buy less and our revenues
are based ontotalgallons, not price pergallon.
Revenue Sharing -It looks like we will get about $264,000 or $255,000 in income in 1975 from that source.
Ebbert - Whatcaused that to be down?
mentioned Spokane,and a couple of other cities affected by it.
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frr^sTfr^aMoVeaf SS.«Vf^sCSi cancel the Revenue Sharing program.
Skaug -Isn't 1975 the last projected year on the present law?
Gagnier -That's correct.
Ebbert -Ford said this afternoon they are going to continue it.But he didn't say whether it would be more
or less.
Skaug -To obligate more than this year's 1975 income would be somewhat in question.
Ebbert - It shouldbe definite before March.
Gagnier -There is substantial action,1think on anation-wide basis to -cities obviously want to see
it continued and that's not a commonly shared opinion.
**a „™,will notice the urban arterial fund has been completely negatedOtherrevenueitems,revenue funds,you wi11 not^e \he urDan ^lfc expectreceiving any in Moses Lake,this year,in talking to Ron,there is some funds available,wtwowiep basically we didn'tSanitationFund,you will notice that there isn't much rf «2~8«^S r^ts7n equipment rentalhavethatmuchofanincreaseonoursanitationrates.W*™^^'™^^rental fund chargesgoesfrom$82,000 to $102,000 that's basically ^«^^B^J^sa1S^?The State Auditor'stherestofthefundstohaveequipmentsuchascars,tractors ^.trucks tnings^fental funds anddepartmenthasinstalledanewchartofaccountsoranew«~^^^^^^onan equipment rental fund.
rental fund for depreciation purposes'.Any questions on any of the revenue items,y
Skaug -On page 12 -the interest earnings on revenue sharing is $5,000 versus $25,000 anticipated.
Where does the bulk ?•
Gagnier -We will achieve substantially more^^t^-1S^«*^^*^^"*
^^1^^^Civic °—•Durin91975'and conse,u ythoughtthatmoneymightnotbeavailabletous.
Skaug -Even $25,000 should be alow estimate of the potential Isn't it on $600,000?
Gagnier -We get better than f so ^Z££Z™g*~Z 5^goes^e ^
s^n^ne^^^'3/4 of that is water/sewer fund money.Basically its the mil ioru*°™£™™That 00mpletes thecarryoverfunds.So most of the interest earnings goes ^/^w^r^'„sW department and explainoverheadsthatwehad.Ithink at this point we *ould get Into^'he "arratives by p ^
what each department is going to be doing during 197 i.Iwas ™^™a^te,he city Manager's and per-present his own narrative for '75 and since Chet's gone,I talk.betv'about ^^n we havehapsyougentlemenmightwanttoelaborateontheCounciIsopera*»^^and guldanceCityStaffhasproposedsomeareasofemphasisfor19"a"d heve Wedtouu p ^that the Council has given as to what areas you would like us to be ^nvolved n Ho '^desirous of Council Input in this matter since'*•"^g^^^youfind areas that were not given
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ating plan to yourwishes.
Basically the City Manager narrative provides -"^^J^0°feach ^paSfsoT/fweguidanceanddirectiontotheCityStaff,thereby coord nat ng the ac««"""«^ne from somemightoperateeffectivelyandefficientlyYouwillnoticetha^"^exPenditures he hag
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their particular departments.Was there any question on the operating plan for City Manager?
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desirous of having some lolnt study sessslon whJ:he^Council oreview^that Dm ^aXt^:8.1^Se^^qu^'^rwouldle^rs^sinvolved in that.
The City's Comprehensiv ePlan is in need of updating ft^Z^^^ggg^u*the Community Development Department would take on In 75 The ^°™munl^$2,600,000 worth„basically ^"^V^^^^We compete
gram,very similar to revenue sharing and the only J^^*^*"^portion of amatch couldthatyouwantthemoneyfor.The money can be elthe^matcted.•any pobe50%match,10%match,70%match whatever s deemedw^.As in the nofthelate1960's,once you get into the priority listing it s~™*f^0^Bjlrst quarter oi the year.allocation.We would expect that Stan would be ^'X >'mthaHeed to be formed and some
about them.
Moe -Rick,on the Community Development Block Program -Could you get into that alittle bit as to what
the Grant Monies couldbe used for?
Gagnier -Basically the monies there have to oe tied tc,some sortt*'J^^^^,^TStanhastodoissurveytheareaofMosesLakeandfindout"here we have n »£the Lakevlew Terrace water supply poses a»^>£^™%J^£^£l the federaloftheCommunity.That could be aprob em ™a'^°~^.?™n^£d^any public works type pro-government for assistance in perhaps ">vmg that prob em Kcan be used I yP^§^^
ject,such as streets,sewer,water,resurfacing,whatever you_"»»whatever other areas,opportunity to perhaps resurface Third Avenue,'P6^™"*a~?***.*™^1 application.There isPennStreetperhapsintheCitythatwemightbeabletogetfundeoagranttypePPsomethlngonly2.6 million dollars this year in the Stateava lable that goes up over the ne y ^^
Cnc^eSSSSr^'cS i,S^.£SrSS£Sa that were not funded for '75.
Ebbert-Is there a deadline when that has to be in?
Gagnier -.There is no deadline you can make application t^^^^^^^^S^type basis with the majority of the funds being a °<=ated during th'se°°n°qU™t arter,s review.So
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Ebbert-Is is first come first serve,or is it figured out on a priority basis ?
Gagnier -iris sort of acombination of both Like ^^^^S^fc'K?%??*.
could fund.
Moe -Rick,why do they call it Housing Assistance Grants,or Housing Assistance Plan?
Gagnier -The concept of the plan is to improve housing within,u«^^\^nlZlTs^X^ifmight be the Central District where^they have -m-'~g •»^^J^M ^any area that
an urban renewal type program that has been '"^^""f.^'0^or a sewer system that's inadequate,
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Gagnier -The areas that could constitute over the long run,health hazards or hazards to the general
condition of housing and domestic living.
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Gagnier -we asked that question down in Kennewick about a month ago and basically as long as it's
tied into improvement of a housing area of some sort,even if it's very loosely tied,it would be held
eligible.The priority might not be very high,but at least it would still be held eligible.
Ebbert -It doesn't necessarily have to be in the area,it can be an arterialfrom that area -
Gagnier -Yes it has to service that housing area in some way,like it could be an arterial providing
access to or from.
Ebbert -Who is on top of this,is that Bech's job or -
Gagnier-That's correct.
Hill -You mentioned we could possible get some money for the Lakeview Terrace area -if we were to
get the referendum #27 money,could we also get this Block Grant too?
Gagnier -Yes.One of the biggest advantages is that you can use Block Grant money as matching
money,whereas with Revenue Sharing money,you cannot use it as matching money.So in effect,like
on a sewer project,you could use Block Grant money for the 10%match for a sewer project or for the 60%
match for a water project.That's one of the big benefits of the program,I think.
Ebbert -Revenue Sharing cannot be used for any grants I mean any matching.
Gagnier -No,not for federal matches.You can't use Revenue Sharing money to match an EPA sewer
project,provide the 15%or 20%matching for one of those.
Moving on to Page 16 then,-
Ebbert -On personnel cost,is he the only personnel in that department?
Gagnier - No we have a half-time secretary assigned to that position also.
On Page 16 we have the finance personnnel department -basically the general area of responsibility
stays the same.The areas of emphasis is different.We have solved some of the problems we had in
1974 and hopefully solve the others this year.We intend to implement some new systems such as equip
ment rental system required by the State Auditor's Department.And hope to provide better information
for department heads.Our computer program will again be busy with modifications in the accounting
system and also in the payroll system.The Capital Asset system,an item that we have been written up
for in the audit on a number of occasions we have started down the road to correct that problem in 1974
and will continue to work on that during 1975.This is one of the areas that hurts us a little bit when
it comes time to sell revenue bonds,our capital assets have not been totally updated therefore reflecting
a capital assets value of something less than what we really have.By updating this we should hopefully
improve our bonding capability.We also expect to go into an inter-departmental training program,the
main emphasis being computer training to other departments hoping to allow them to use the computer,
more than just ourselves.We hope to train the public works department and outline some of the areas
that we might be helping them with as well as the Fire Department,Police Department,anybody else that
might be interested.I think on something like a computer,that people need to know what it's capabilities
are before they can really put it to use,and we hope to provide that training this year.We also hope to
cross train our staff inside the finance department so there is inter-transferability between the clerks as
well as the other personnel in the department,so that if one is sick or on vacation we don't go into a -
we don't have a problem covering that particular position.
We also hope to issue a number of Standard Operating Procedures writing down some of the procedures of
office procedures and have fortunately have the services of Bob West in this regard.He has already done '
a number of these things and probably has a large number of Standard Operating Procedures yet to be
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We also plan to convert most of our financial records as well as Central Files records to.microfilm -
that represents an on-going program-we are picking up where the Police Department leaves off and
we will probably spend the next rest of the entire 1975 year micro-filming finance department records.
We hope to continue our performance appraisal system in conjunction with our M.B.O.system (Manage
ment by objectives)We have started in 1974.I think we have a system that is improving daily and seems
to be giving us some good results as far as management control and results oriented type activities in
the finance department.To control some of the problems we have had with billing,we hope to central
ize all billing in the City in the Finance Department.Presently each department does their own,whether
it be Police,Fire,Public Works,Parks,whatever.Thereby giving us a lack of control over exactly how
much money we have outstanding at any one time.
One of the areas that we don't address in this particular budget that I would like to suggest that we add -
The minutes that we have been providing - I am sure you have noticed over the last month or so they have
become quite a bit more extensive -They have gone from 10 to 15 pages to sometimes an excess of 40
this frankly,gentlemen,requires a typist typing full-time three to four days a week to provide.She takes
it off the tape machine that Jean is running now and types it verbatum.If this were to continue I would think
that we would like to recommend that we add a half-time girl to absorb that work load.Currently the three
secretaries in the City Hall Staff have been pitching together on an over-time basis and on a day to day
basis,trying to pick up the load.And it has come to .the point where their other work is suffering.So that
would be an item that we would like to discuss in the budget narrative if possible.
Ebbert -Can't you use the other half of the girl that Bech is using?
Gagnier -We are already using her.
Ebbert - You need a girl and a half then,huh?
Gagnier -Currently we have a part-time girl in the Police Court and she*spends approximately a half
day or she is half time taking care of back-up for Barbara as well as the work load that has developed
there.I think that if we were to continue with the minutes we would propose she be made a full-time
position and then in effect we would have a girl working half-time on minutes and half-time on Police
Court type activities.
Ebbert - You propose that for this year's budget?
Gagnier -for 1975,yes I would.It is not contained in the dollar figures you see here now,these figures
were arrived at two months ago,now.This would be an update or change in the preliminary budget we would
like to propose.
Ebbert -Would that be added into Personnel Cost?
Gagnier -Correct.
Johnson -What about Other Services ?
Gagnier -That would not change with the additional girl.Her overhead costs,such as payroll taxes,
vacation,holidays,would come out of your personnel costs.All personnel costs are associated with
that.That would -the half time girl we are talking about $3500 to $4,000 . The expenditure levels for
a number funds such as revenue sharing,library funds,miscellaneous services,are contained in the
finance department.I think they are all fairly self-explanatory.I would respond to any questions you
might have on any of those areas I have presented.
On Page 19,then,we go into Revenue Sharing Expenditures,here we have outlined by department which
capital items we expect or hope to purchase in '75.In the legislative/executive department,which is
the City Council and the City Manager,we propose to do some repair work to this council chamber,
basically painting of-the walls and doing some resurfacing of some of the wood up in the front here.
It is getting worn by age.We also propose the $494,000 for the new Civic Center Complex and approx
imately $1,000 we listed under furniture for the City Manager,but that in effect would be any painting
to City Hall,any desks,chairs,that might need to be replaced.I think that Chet would like to have a
table in his office,plus perhaps a bookcase.That represents approximately $1,000 worth of expenditures.
In the Finance Department,we propose to add two bookcases and two storage racks,mainly for the storage
of records and continuation of the filing system that we have.Wayne,do you want to talk about the
Police Department.
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Chief Baker- Rick, I don't know what the $231,000for Professional Services is that you put there,
but the Typewriter is a replacement typewriter for one that is about seven or eight years old that Elaine
uses.The camera is.a replacement camera for one that we have had nearly twenty years,I think.
The tranquilizer gun is an expenditure for our poundmaster,enabling him to catch some of these dogs
that he can get close to but can't get his hands on.Parking meters,of course,is self-explanatox-y,
we opened a bid for those last week.
Gagnier-The $231,000 basically represents $100,000 the 24 month expenditure that I spoke of earlier
into the general fund and $131,270 to balance the general fund budget.Police Services is an eligible
cost for Revenue Sharing.So in effect,we transfer the money to the general fund and call it payment
for Police Services.In effect gentlemen,that is the figure we used to balance the budget though,the
$131,000.The $100,000 for the Civic Center Complex will not be spent unless we incur expenses on
architectural fees or start up a cost on that.
Building Inspection Department -Bob is not here -basically he needs a typewriter, and a plan holder
for some $670.Ron, would you like to Respond on the Engineering -Drafting Station?
Ron Baker - It is just simply the necessary drafting.station to allow our new employee,our design
engineer, to do his duties - it includes the drafting equipment, lighting, and drafting —?—. That is
the whole thing.'
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Baker -Yes,we do.We picked up Stan's table that he formerly-was on.
Gagnier -That is just loaned.
Ebbert - I wondered where that went.
Gagnier -The Parks Department has a number of items - Cecil would you like to respondto those?
Cecil Lee - The number 1 item at Larson Playfield comfort station is what we propose,a Super-Secur
restroom,which would provide three water closets like in the women's side and two in the men's and
a urinal and facility to wash with.At the present time I think probably many of you know that the
restroom facility out there has one commode on each side and that's it.Andwe have anywhere from
500 to 1000 people there throughout the season at any one time and it just is nowhere close to being a
sufficient facility.
Ebbert -Will you build a bigger building?
Lee - It is a completely new restroom.So we will pull the old restroom out and probably in the next
year we would propose to put it at.Knolls Vistato help eliminate some of the problems they have out there
from the lack of a restroom facility.But it would be a Super-Secur which is about the best facility for
the least amount of money,the most durable at any rate for around $8,000.
The Montlake Park waterfront floatation -.This is what we hope will be -help alleviate the problems,
the safety hazards in that particular area from youngsters swimming where the boats are coming in and
out -we also will use a few of these particular floats for buoys to mark markings out into the water so
that we can put up restrictions,warnings and this sort of thing to kind of help the situation there.That
is basically what that is.
Ebbert -Is that something that stays in the water year-round ?
Lee - No, we will pull it out when the swimming season is about over, and then put it back in the Spring,
The Montlake Park Boat Launch improvement is simply a device to keep the boats off from the rocks.The
way it is right now, they launch in there and there is a great deal of distance between the person that is
towing the boat -well,the float first of all is out on the little peninsula.So from where they launch,
there is about 40 or 50 feet that they have to tow their boat before they can get to the float in order to
load their boat.And this is simply a device to keep the boat off of the rocks,while they are trying to
tow it because it is such a distance out.
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Lee -The McCosh Parkin,lot improvements is ^XTcwXl^Z^tXTaboutamonthorsoago,it's the idea behind the thing is to complete^-cross.P ^McCosh.We have talked about going acouple of:different ^s,sidewalk ^^^
rittrrCnruit^r^
alleviate the problems that they have back there.
Ebbert -Will that be done before Spring weather gets here?
Lee -Yes,we plan to have it this Spring as early as possible,
get to.
The Central Recreation -we have four ^J™^^^0^Furniture -is a few items which right now or probably fOT t^8y^p£*_is something that we haverepTaced,such as chairs and general furniture,to•*.lounge %^^£?,a£ui*of an event,been having ahassle with for the last two or three years,f™£™the use of theirs _we canweendupthatwedon't have a P.A ,the s^^felt that would be probablyhardlyborrowonesothatiswhatthisis.A™™™*^£™w£of and this was one of the reasonsthatwouldbenefitmorepeoplethanany**?^^™instead of having to have free weights,andweputthatinthere.It is a safe means of l^ng we^t8'^™su^rvising it all the time,a universalhavingtohavesomeonethat's trained with ^^^^^Wb about the best piece of equip-gym is quite safe as far as having accidents ^d_thatjort of thing
ment thatwe felt we could getfor the overall citizenry.
a maintenance problem there with grass and that sort of thing.
posing to Put up some dugout fencing,using chain link fence and pipe.
The Swimming Poo.Chlorinator -that ^^^J^^V^Xo^Z'.1^"-kTareproposingtochangefrom150lb.units to a ton unit,which.mu ao j _^^^nQW_we
^rn^^^rrnfwl %'Ztt^£^tt££ZZ-'which would be atremendous
advantage.
The last thing is the ™.°-*^%S%£?«TS£Z ITE^ST ~""'n 'I believe it was twoyears ago. That is the extent a»."
r..,„„i overlooked the Fire Department when Iwas going down the Page 19 there.Don.s^uir^^.•
Garrison -Yes.at the present time,the turnout^lothlng that ;^£;~£^J^^flamabillty standards for children's •^P^^J*™1^^'^require what they call "nomex"orforfiremen's turnout clothing and it appearnow^tha:they are go ng q busMble flber and when
rVet sn^.^^»*^~^i-78--«—••——"»pur-chased after that date will have to meet those standards.
~„*K«eo for those that wear out and we keep enough hose in^X^^^™^"'™chan^whtnle have wet hose out replacing -wet
hose on the apparatus after fires.
The Training Tower Oil Sump will take care of aprobllem that we have then.Weja-nhad any^U fire_
%^&£tt&£^™"^^~™pro7osed to take care o£thatdrainageproblemtokeeptheoil outof the water.
It will be one of the first projects we
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Gagnier -Ron,would youlike to respond on the Street Fund Garden Heights Storm Drain?Excuse
l—J me, Mac, I didn't see you there.
McLanahan -Gentlemen,on the harden Heights Storm Drainage,these lots that the City foreclosed on
L.I.D.that are located on Garden Drive in the 900 Block are weeping from the irrigation runoff that creeps
along through the "wringle"as the geologists refer to it,down to the cleche and the outcropping of this
water is all along this hill,from almost the Skyline Acres to Division Street.Mr.Johnson,you live
very close to some of it, I'msure you are quite familiar with it. It is a real pain, I'msure. Inorder
to sell those lots,we are going to have to put in some storm drainage.This figure that we put in is
a figure that I used a real sharp pencil with.We will put it out to bid, but I doubt very seriously if any
contractor will be willing to try to put in a storm drainage for this figure.We will probably end uphaving
£y to do the work with ourown crews.We were going to do the work out ofL.I.D.funds but Mr.Gagnier
CvJ saved my young life in this, in telling me that the auditor would be down our necks for spending LJ.D.
<J2 guarantee funds to sell L.I.D. lots. It hasto come from the general fund.We anticipate doing this
CJ)sometime in theearly spring -we would like for the situation if possible, to dry up before we gointo
EjJ construction.
w Ebbert - We have to put a ditch clear down to the top of the cleche to catch that stuff?.
McLanahan- We have to go in the back of the lots.If you're familiar with the new home that Mr. Moos
has built up there back behind the lots along that easement,and try to pick up the water as it breaks out
of the cleche into the soil right in there with an interceptor sewer.Then we will come down Ninth Street
with probably an eight inch -1 would like to think we could make it with a six inch, but it will probably
be eight inch - line down Ninth Street,we'll go right on top of the sewer line that was presently con
structed onlywe'll stay about twofeet from the surface.This way wewill stay out of rockexcavation.
We will go into a drain line on Division Street that is already constructed.
Ebbert - Will you use ?loose joints,or what?
McLanahan -We willeitherusea fritch type drain where we put concrete pipe together and do not cement
the joints,or we will use porous orangeburg.
On the litter containers,as you know, the litter law that passed the legislature two years ago, not only
required that you carry a litter bag in your car now,butit required that the Citydocertain things.We
have to puta litter containerat each parking lot, at each 800 feet in distance, or no more than 800 feet
in distance,in the Central Business District - Wehave to put one at each boat ramp.So we have asked
for 14 new litter containers to go in the downtown areas and parking lots that are not equipped with them at
present time.
Ebbert - Is that something that could be done by a service club or a group of clubs ?
McLanahan -We would welcome it.
Ebbert - What I meanis there a penalty to it if the City doesn't do it?How enforceable is this regulation?
McLanahan -It is an R.C.W.and it is enforceable.
Ebbert -It has to be done this year.
McLanahan - We have put it off longer than we should have already.It isn't starting to be enforced this
year, butI understand that D.O.E. is looking at enforcing it in the very near future and I understand that
is 1975.
Gagnier -Basically to finish out the Revenue Sharing fund,then, we have the library department and we
listed it as newcarpet for $1,000 if you have been in the library over the last month, you will see that we
If fact putin new carpet this year -we had $1500 budgeted this yearand wedidn't thinkwe couldget new
carpetin but we were able to, so the $1,000 we would like to change from new carpet to repainting and re-
upholstering some of-the chairs in there.It has been something like 10 years since they have been painted
—and it is badly in need of being done.
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Gagnier -The Health Districtis a continuation of this year's appropriation for next year.This year
we had $14,000 nextyear it lookslike it's going to be $15,000.Are thereany questions onanyof
the Revenue Sharing items?
Okay,then we would like togo into the Park and Recreation Department -Cecil would you like to
explain your operating plan for 1975?
Lee -1975 for the Parkand Recreation Department is going to be pretty simple -Areas of Emphasis,
we are talking about simply upgrading and increasing our maintenance of the existing facilities that we
have.We feel like, I think as I said before, that wereally haven't donethe job in the past couple of
years,due toour involvement ina number.of construction projects,but we are eliminating those kinds
of things,although we still willbe involved in some improvements,butwe are trying to get outofthat
kind of business and get our parks back up to a little better standard, a little higher standard, so we
are basically the program is as you know,we have two EEA Maintenance I people added to our staffand
this willgive us a little more manpower to help do this arid we are also talking about doing a better job
in the weeding,talking aboutdoing a better jobof maintaining our restrooms,andin a little cleaner state,
and in some cases,replace some fixtures which cannotbe cleaned.This is really what we are talking
aboutforthe whole year is a maintenance year.The second area ofemphasis that we talkedaboutwas
providing recreation that was reflective of what the people wanted and try to be alittle more able todo
what the public would like when they request it.Talking mainly about recreation programs,now.And
we think we have come up with a wayof doing this now,simply by budgeting $1,000 which , if citizens
want a certain InTO theirfees can pay for it, thenwe willbeable to just go ahead and initiatethat pro
gram without waiting until the next budget year.This seems like it will work out quite well and if the
income will match the outgo.and we can be a little flexible there .
In efficiency improvements we are talking about like renovating a couple of playgrounds this year to help
maintenance - forexample, the dugoutsat Lakeview.We are talking aboutusing ground steritants
considerably more so we don't have to do as much edging and we are using sterilants for edging also.
In the Assist Recreation Groups, this is pretty much an area that we have said that we need to do'mere
in where we could helpthe citizens withthe least amount of expenditure so we doplan to help othergroupsasmuchaspossible,orat least more than we have in the past.Of course,we had in our areas
of emphasis a neighborhood park in the area ofLee Park,because of it's inadequate size,however,that
is in the list of things that weren't funded,as you saw in Mr.Waggener's letter.That is about the size
of it unless you have some questions.
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Hill -Cecil,why do we get involved in activities that are competitive to private businesses.I am think
ing ofjust not long ago,guitar lessons, I think some of the craft work where they cangoto private
business and take it.
Lee - Well, I think we have to look back at thereasonthat we do any ofthese things andone of them
is that we feel like everybody should have the chance to do it,and quite often, youwill find that private
business,not everybody can afford to doit, so what we do, is we provide an activity by bringing people
together in groups,insteadof privately and we offer it to them at a greatly reduced price.Really it
doesn't compete,because they arenot getting the same kind of instruction.They are getting a much less
quality.For example,guitar as you mentioned -
Hill -You said that,I didn't.
Lee -Thought you said something about guitar.That is basically it thatourbasic philosophy is that
everybody should have a chance to do these kinds of things and we don't feel that private industry,or
where they are outthere making the money at it, thatthe people,everybody can't afford to pay the kind
of prices that they do, so we bring them together in groups,and give them maybe not as good ofinstruct-
tion because maybe there is - againguitar-we could use that,there are six to ten people in the class.
The instructor has them for 40 minutes.He cannotgive them the same kindof thing that somebody could
privately but he can do it for alot less money and they can get started into it.Arts and Crafts,basically
the only things we do there is with the children and ofcourse that is a part of our winter experience thing.
Johnson-I think there are some things in recreation that people ought to do for themselves.?
?why -can't people do anything for themselves anymore?Nothing?
Lee -They do.We don't provide that much ofa program really, as faras our department is concerned.
This community does a lot forthemselves with othergroups andso on, alot of things theydo for them-.
selves. If you break down each age group,we are not taking care of them completely,not even as much
as I feel we should.I don't know how to respond to that.
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Gagnier -Moving on then to the Police Department,Wayne would you like to present your plan for
1975?
Chief Baker -Gentlemen,if you will recall in our preliminary session,we went over our general
responsibilities as well as our aiaas of emphasis,I don't think that it is necessary for me to go en
tirely over them again,with your approval of those emphasis areas,our budget reflects an increase
in personnel costs in the amount of two people -an added patrolman and an added clerk/matron to
take over the duties that a patrolman is now performing,so that we will have two additional patrol
men for street duty.Our operating and office supplies budget as you will see is not really reflective
of the increased costs that are present today.I think it is going to be pretty tight for us to control
it.Other Services and Charges listed on the bottom -as you can see are nearly doubled,but at the
bottom,non-expenditure disbursements,which includes the equipment rental,has moved up into that
^*category and that accounts for the biggest share of the increase.
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ating materials that we'll be using then.That is not shown on the chart that you have,but it will be
part of our personnel costs and part of our operating and office supplies cost would be in that category.
As I talked before,if you will recall,our crime prevention program -and we have actually already
started this to some degree,we have some programs that were purchased with an award that Chief
Bjork got before he left a year ago and we have been getting to the public both civic and private groups
with some of those programs and we anticipate that if we can break a man loose and get ?
and break a man loose that we can actually say to an officer - "You have this afternoon free.Go up to
the High School and work with the people.Or go to Frontier or go to Lakeview Terrace Elementary and
work with the people."We will be able to do the same thing with a man for a half-day a week and say
"Go up to Montlake Park and go into a home and get the neighbors to come with you and talk."Same
way in the Business district during the day.Once a week we will break a man loose for half a day at a
time and say "Go down and talk to several of the businesses,just show them what they can do to help
us and explain what we need from them in order that we can more efficiently deter the crime in the area."
I would entertain any questions that any of you have regarding the police force.
Boyle -One question that comes to mind,we touched on it earlier as far as sources of revenue -it is not
a big source of revenue,in fact,if the case were that we were having less arrests and less investigative
time I would welcome the thought of revenue being down from fines and fees collected from the Courts.
But I am assuming that the numbers of arrests are up,the number of hours spent by-officers on investigation
is drastically up,the amount of Court time spent by officers is drastically up,can you elaborate why
the amount of fines and monies anticipated to come to the City are going to be less?It is just hard to
fathom that all this extra time and extra effort being put in by the Police Department that we are going
to be having less revenue coming in from this source.
Baker -Alot of the extra time that is required to be put in by the Police Department is somewhat in case
preparation.As you are well aware,we have more stringent Court rules and Supreme:Court rulings that
require us to more thoroughly investigate the crime before we can bring it before the prosecutor and before
the Courts now,this takes added time.As to the judges decision after we get it before him,Mr.Boyle,
on his fines and such,I wouldn't even attempt to guess.
Johnson - Are you asking for enough help,Wayne?
Baker - I think so ,Mr.Johnson.Yes,these two people will give us two people on the night shift.That
is where they will be used.Obviously I stated awhile ago,that the added clerk-matron would work two
days day shift relief,two days swing shift relief and one day graveyard relief.But the other patrolman
then would be reassigned.The new patrolman will be utilized on the night shift,probably from 8:00 at
night until 4:00 in the morning during the peak hours when the other people are needed.We also,in the
way of people,we have a reserve class going at the present time,and I realize that we can't depend
entirely on reserves,but I think we have got thirteen new reserves that are going to come out and help
us,providing all of them pass the course.In our budget also,In the equipment rental is reflected the
increase of one additional vehicle,that the reserves will share with the City mechanic.He will use it
in the daytime to chase parts and such and will be available for them to use at night and will be equipped
as such.
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Baker -This reflects new and I believe improved reporting by the local paper.I believe that in the past
that column could have been there also,if you read the column carefully,you will notice that the long
section that reflects police reports,is not all Moses Lake.Othello is in it occassionally,-
Skaug -Were these unpublished before ?
Baker -Mostly unpublished before.That's right our crime rate has went up tremendously and I
attribute part of that at least to the fact that people are calling us more and more on alot of petty .
things that they didn't even call us on before and I am glad they are.I encourage it.We know what
is going on now.Before some of it was in the dark to us.
Boyle -Getting back to my point,I hate to belabor the point,but crime is up,and the number of arrests
I am assuming are up substantially -in other words,if there is increased crime,we're going to have
increased investigations,increased arrests.It still is hard for me to understand,if we are having in
creased number of arrests,why is the -are the crimes going unpunished?
Baker -Gentlemen,to me there has to be two things for crime deterrent -first of all,a fear of being
caught,and secondly a fear of being punished after you are caught.I don't think that both of those things
exist now.I see people come laughing out of the courtroom.
Boyle -This is the point I am getting at.
Baker -Now a part of those fines and forfeitures that are falling off are reflective of our current alchohol
laws,drunk in publics -we are not bringing them before the court anymore,gentlemen,we are taking them
home,we are calling someone to come and get them,this was a sizeable section before.Driving while
intoxicated arrests -if we can find a responsible person to take them home,we do so,they are not re
quired to post bail,part of which was ordinarily forfeited in the past -that is not there now.
Ebbert - Are parking fines down?
Baker -They are down some,yes.And that is partly reflective of our utilizing that man in other functions.
Because our meters aren't that good right now.I expect'that they will -that our parking -fines and
parking ? —will both be up with the installation of new meters.
Hill - - I have got a parking lot too,that helps.
Baker -Any other questions,gentlemen?
Johnson - I just wanted to be sure you are getting enough help.
Baker - I think that we will have adequate help Mr.Johnson -
Ebbert -Make good use of your reserves,that will help some.
Baker -Yes,and some new ones who are anxious to get out.
Hill -You say you have thirteen new reserves?
Baker -We have thirteen new ones in a class right now.
Hill -That will be a total of how many ?
Baker -We will limit our total to about 20 or 22 altogether.We can't handle any more than that,as •,
far as equipping them and keeping them out.We are carrying some now that aren't really an active
.reserve,but they will come out if we call them,you know.
Hill-Mayor,how about a break?
Ebbert -Five minute break.
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Ebbert -What do we have now,the Fire Department?
Gagnier -Yes,the next one would be the Fire Department.Chief Beeman had surgery on his hand this
morning,and thought he was going to be back about noon,and he came stumbling in about three and looked
like he should have been heading for the mortuary instead of for work,so he isn't available,Don,would
you like to explain the 1975 Operating Plan for the Fire Department?
Don Garrison (Asst.Fire Chief)-The Responsibilities and Areas of Emphasis will remain the same as it
has been in the past -Under areas of emphasis,we intend to improve emphasis in the fire prevention
education portion and in the past we have had the fire prevention poster contest in the schools and we have
made some presentations at the junior high schools to health classes and that sort of thing,but we hope
to solicit presentations with any organized groups that we can -service clubs,schools and so on,churches-
to educate people about fire prevention.Continued effort in fire prevention itself we hope to increase
all those activities and we feel we can do that with the additional experience that the fire inspector will
have through the past year that he has had in fire prevention and we hope and we assume that he will have
more time to be involved in those activities this year .Last year we had to use him quite a bit to fill in on
shift when people were on vacations and sick leave and that sort of thing.Even though our hours are going
to be reduced for shift personnel this year,with the additional man we feel that we won't have to use him
quite as much to fill in on shifts,so he can spend more time in fire prevention.
We hope to increase the home inspection program and with some emphasis placed on training the crews for
fire prevention inspections in homes and I am assuming that this education is going'to be given by the
fire marshal or myself or both.And as you note,in the narrative there where Chief Beeman wrote -A step
forward in life safety should occur with adoption of the 1973 Building Code,as they will require smoke
detection in all new residences.We are striving for an improved and updated training program -we felt
that our program was not quite.,as well organized as it could be so we are re-organizing the entire training
program and it will be scheduled as it states there under ten major headings with 54 sub-divisions.The
reason for that being a major heading might be "pump operation"and there are several sections of pump
operation you can get involved in.And the same with hose evolutions and that type of thing.And at the
same time,I intend to spend more of my time involved in the training program -In the past I have been
spending quite a bit of time in fire prevention assisting the fire marshal,with his duties - I used to be
the fire marshal and it takes a while to really get oriented in fire prevention and code activities,that's
the reason I spent as much time as I did with him.We want to have advance training in emergency med
ical services so that we can have all new volunteers and all new personnel that are paid,kept up to
EMT level and that requires some retraining every three years I believe it is.And we want to get some
more people trained beyond that in the cardio-pulmonary area.We have six people now that have had an
additional 30 hours in cardiac care and we hope to get probably another half-dozen trained in that this
year.That training is afforded us through the hospital district by the hospital administrator.
Ebbert -Is that free to the City ?
Garrison -Yes it is . At the same time,if he can find the time and the wherewithall to do it,he wants
to train those six people that already have the 30 hours in cardiac care to another stage beyond that.
What he would basically like is to have some para-medics,which takes quite a few hours of training,
approximately 600 hours of training and our people have had formal training probably 120 hours.So there
is quite a ways to go and we will probably be trying to do that in stages as we go.We hope to start a
new fire reporting system this year.The National Fire Protection Association has a proposed fire report
ing system that this department and other departments in the State are trying to get that adopted as a
State-wide fire reporting system and we think that it will eventually be adopted as a Nation-wide fire
reporting system,which would give us a lot broader basis for statistics -presently,different fire
departments all over the country and all over the state have umpteen different types of fire reporting
systems and records.So you can't get any statistics that really mean anything because there is not enough
*tbat are the same.And we hope to cure that with this program and at the same time our fire reporting
sytem that we are using now is probably 60%computerized and with this new program we hope to be able
to computerize it 100%.That is about all I have unless you have some questions..
Ebbert -This home inspection business -will that require more personnel?How do you plan to increase?
Garrison - By better'organizing our time.
Hill - Some months ago,fire and police and so forth wero considering going to the 911 system.
Wayne would like to respond to that.
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Wayne Baker -Yes,as a---^c^l^oKlatelastmonth,to get some of the fire chie**2°tee i™™e Pyou gentlemen can understand trying tothenamesofthechiefsthatwill^"'^S^nithe county together to make one corn-get firemen from all over the county ^j^^^^ntaUve sampling of each entity,fire chiefs andmitteeisanimpossiblething-we have to have a WP™6™"*forward .vve will be meeting-ponce chiefs in order to make a^^^^X^J^<^wil1 be meeting ****V^again not this Thursday but a™\^™™^^J^m be able before the end of 1975 to asksomemoreaboutitanditisgoing^^.^^^"htag,it is not something that is going to"Ma Bell"how much it is going to cost us.Itis a long term in
happen overnight.
Garrison -Anything else ?
Garrison - Yes it is.Ebbert-Are you putting the-there Is something in here about the volunteer department -are they taking
this medical course too?Garrison -Yes.they are.In fact,most of our volunteers are already trained to EMT level.
Gagnier -Bob Kimball,who represents the Building and ^nitaUor^^X^™^*™*.S suggest that we defer his,sectior,to ou,•nerf™°^X£™«i *i*the Engineering secUon.S£.r do9 havrioT.?;^::.*::%£ss»^»-an OVer v.-«*-«*.^.-
Ebbert -What aboutSanitation?Oagnier-That is Bob Kimball's section -Sanitation and Building are both his.Mac,would you like
McLanahan -Gentlemen,before we go -~^^other programs within the public works [wouldI like to review y ^^^applications ^at
file for State and Federal funding.I ^"^^^^e through and all of you not be informed,wehave turned in.Iwould hate for '^^^^^^tSmM that we have applied for.AtandImeaneachandeveryoneofyou,*f^;V^£•for Ron to start out his presentation,this time,as we say we have about 10 or If ^nutes'XW£T Rand be a littie better chance to digestandwillfinishitsomeothertime.This will^g ve.you abreakanl mY ^^comments orsomeofthisinformationbecauseitisquite^^•JJ^/.'^Se merits of each one of the jobs thatanyquestionsuntilRonfinishesandweget^^^^fund cover,Iam sure Ron will be glad,we have applied for.If you have questions as tc whatjrn^^e?or I will be glad to respond to that question.Ron,would you n*
.u «.i*<«KHof a.:nossible.The Urban Arterialfunds that rep-Ron Baker -Briefly,and Iwill try ^^^^11progrfm is on it's last legs due to the limitedresentapotentialsourcetousare.limited^"JJ^V ^^?hat is the Division Street Signals.That isfundsattheStatelevel,so we submitted onlV one proje?£%**Money and 10%City.At the presentapproximatelya$70,000 project,that would be ^'J^J^^^ect.And consequently,we haveUmewedon't rate very high on the State ff^^^^^t,which requires no action by thesubmittedthatprojectinthe1975budget:a.a£^nt^t^as acouncil act on the Six Year StreetStateotherthatapprovalofourprospectuses^^^^^^for funding under the half-centProgram,and any project that is listed ^\Tcent prospectuses approved by the State Engineer,program.At the present time,we have eight haIf c^nt p^ospeC wJ dthe money and that is the topWhatthatmeansisthatifyouweretoapprovetheprojectwe^could sp ^^^yista haveeightlisted-East Broadway,Division ^»^*£*!'™^on the last phase,which was the land-been completed,or are in the process of being c°mple*°Dfive is also complete -Valley Roadscaping,of East Broadway.The Valley ^"^""^p ann ng and specifications on those projectsThirdAvenue,Penn Street,those we are asking t°^°^bSmi^dP1uander ?he UAB,we would like to do thosein'75 .The Division Street signals ^.^^^^^Asbxb not available.The seal-coatsignalsin'75 using half-cent ^^^^^^^^onProgram for the past several years.program,this is one that you put in the Six Yearbtree:u^of ourstreets need to beandduetootherconstructionsP^J"'w^elt^9^b^?5«funds which are being made availablechip-sealed at this time and we would "^^do itta W75 .in rtment ...^program requirestoCities,are federal funds administered through the State Hign y p ^schedulessubmittalofverycomprehensiveapplicationsregardingtheprojectsy
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where they need to allocate their funds so their requirement to submit application comes way in ad
vance of our request for maybe project funds from the City to do any work.The projects listed one
through eleven.are all current applications for FAM funding.On the first quarter, which was this past
quarter, we did not rate high enough for any of our projects to be funded. However, there is every
possibility that in subsequent quarters in '75 that we may be funded.The Washington Traffic Safety
Commission is primarily concerned with increasing the safety on our streets and they will fund projects
to increase that safety.We have four funded right now.All we have to do in the four listed there
is to submit a task report to the State and if they approve it we can proceed with that project.The
identification surveillance of accident locations has a set amount of $1200,Highway Design, $6,000
Traffic Engineering Services, $3,000 Pedestrian Safety, $900. These projects were submitted about
a yearagoas preliminary budget data forthe Traffic Safety Commission and we just received word that
the funds are available.
As you know,the Department of Social and HealthServices have authorizedto us several grant projects,
oneof them beingWell #11,which is item 7,The well rebuilds,which is item 11 and the Well #31
transmission main, which is item 2.The others are projects that have been submitted and as of yet
have not received any priority rating high enough to award funds on.
Ebbert -What have you got now,three or four?
Baker -We have got three different projects that are funded.As you know,like the well rebuild
project, that includes work onseveral different wells.It is all - as far as the Department of Social
and Health Services are concerned,that is all one project.
Hill -What is the Westshore main ,Number 10?
Baker -About a year agotherewas some interest along Westshore Drive that's from Westlake north,
the property owners were interested in forming anL.I.D. to extend the water main out inthatarea,and
so we submitted a pre-application,actually,to help off-set part of the cost of that transmission line.
But,here again transmission lines do notrate high onthe priority list unless theyare associated with
a source project,so it's not likely it will be funded.
Skaug - Are those in relative priority?
Baker - No, they are not.We really - on this type of list,it is awful tough for me to assign a priority-
in the budget you will see a little more priority than here.
?assumed a higher priority than theSkaug-Well#11,has been in Mr.McLanahan's
reservoir In number 5 .
Baker - That's correct.When the staff put together this list,I think they just went through the file
drawer and whichever one was in the front was the one that went on the top of the list.
I apologize for the unviewability there.This is a summary of projects that were submitted a couple of
years-ago to various agencies.Notice at the top -this is the Environmental Protection Agency,this
one is HUD,whichis House Urban Development , the otherone is Economic Development.These projects
that were submittedherewere quite extensive and they cover everything from sewer, water, drainage
problems,and it was - the complete package was submitted at one time.Many of these projects were
taken offthe Comprehensive Water and Sewer Plan of 1970.The first one is a central reservoir,which at
that time was oneof the high priority items.Well #11,Booster Station,Distribution System additions,
telemetering system to balance out the flow within the system,wellhouse modifications,all these items
or projects thatare listed here,have been submitted to the Department of Social and Health Services,
also.And some of these projects have been funded,such as Well #11,- there has been noactivity on
this list otherthanon the Sewer System which EPA has funded our Larson Sewer Treatment Plant andat
the present time we are being considered for a facility plan grant,and subsequent grant for modificationofourCitysewertreatmentplant.This list goes on,it is basically projects that.you have been exposed
to before -such as modification to the Peninsula station,the Knolls Vista Sewer interceptor ,modifications
.to the sewer treatment plant,additional chlorine facilities at the treatment plant,and as presently author
ized,the replacement of the Eastlake sewer line.
There was an application submitted also for Penn Street concerned mainly with the drainage problem in that
area.An additional storm sewer lines that would need to be putinwithstreet improvement projects. I
am not sure exactly of the locations.
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Johnson - I though an L.I.D.was approved up there Ron.
Baker - On Penn Street?We have an outstanding petition to consider that for an L.I.D.and at various
times there has been work accomplished on -preliminary work - on the drainage problem.Now in the
1975 budget we have asked that money be allocated specifically to investigate the problem and try and
determine a solution.And quite frankly,it is one that we don't look forward and we know it's going to
be a headache.Butin reality,something has to be done for those business people along Penn Street
and there is really nothing that we can do for the street until we take care of the drainage problem.
I think the property owners along there are not so concerned with paving the street as they are getting
rid of the excess water.
Hill -Isn't that petition four years old or so?
Baker - That is approximately correct,I am not sure.There has been manyinformal requests by the
property ownersfor us to take care of the problem.The thing that has held us back is we know that the .
construction of any facility to handle it is going to be expensive.Probably more than what the property
owners themselves would care to stand on an L.I.D.
Skaug -Would such a program have to be entertained if the Grant County Mall comes into being?
Baker - When we designed Pioneer Way,we looked at that whole drainage problem in that area to the-
east and south of Wheeler Road. And we went so far as to size the culvert that would be needed to take
care of the drainage in the area where the Grant County Mall is proposed,sol don't see any problem there.
If they can solve their foundationproblems, which I am sure they can, then the surface drainage will be
no problem.
Hill -
Baker - We planned that there would be a minimum of 42 inch tile storm drain line across that,and it would
be covered over.But that in itself doesn't take care of the problem on ?adjacent to Penn Street.
Hill -Could we get copies of thoseJ?
Baker - Sure -I'll be glad to make copies for you.The one list,the comprehensive list of water and
sewer projects,is right out of the original application and we xeroxed it down.
Ebbert -Does that complete the Engineering Report?
Baker -Unless you have some questions.
Ebbert - These 27 grants-how are they going to be reflected in the budget as they come through?Are
there three of them reflected now?
Baker - Our policy this year as far as grant projects or any other construction projects - if the money
is not currently available to us for construction,it is not reflected in the budget.We have several
projects where we are asking for money out of the General Fund to do the plans,specs,for that pro
ject and in some cases,particularly with the Department of Social and Health Services grants,once
the plans and specifications are complete and sent into the agency then it automatically increases the
priority rating of that particular project.Because of the readiness to proceed.So, to answer your
question,if the money is not available on a grant,the project does not show as funded in the '75
budget.
Ebbert - You say you have got three now.Are they shown in here ?
Baker - Yes they are,with the exception of Well#31 transmission line.
Ebbert -Isn't that one granted too?
Baker -Yes it is but it just a recent grant,after the budget preparation.
McLanahan - I would like to tell you one other project that we are seeking funds for that we haven't
shown you.Recently I had a meeting with George Neff of the Bureau of Reclamation.They are now con
scious to the fact or admit the fact that the Water that is flooding the Penn Street areas is caused by
irrigation.They have reversed their position that if we can seek funding to relieve the situation,that it
will not effect them in any way or their chances for the East High Canal.They have suggested that we
start with the Army Engineers with a plan of relief.We haven't contacted them,this has Just been in the
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p-^McLanahan -Yes.If we get warm,we should get quite a bit really.They claim now that they aren't
p^liable for their water,that they have no laws which make them liable for these low places,?-?
that they know they are going to be there and in other areas they are trying to turn them into game reserves,
but we can't very well turn industrial property or commercial property into game reserves.
Johnson -When do we meet again?
Ebbert -Wednesday night.
Skaug - I move that the public hearing be closed up through this particular point and then recessed to
our Wednesday night meeting.
Johnson -I'll second it.
Hill -Wouldn't there be some value to just recessing,that we might have some public here at the next
meeting.
Skaug - I grant that,Bob,but there is no way to put our questions out to anybody here thus far,and to
rehash this again I think would be -
Hill -One year we had ?
Ebbert -You want to close the public hearing tonight ?
Skaug -Up to a point of discussion thus far,yes.
Boyle - In other words,you want to continue the public hearing from this point on.
Ebbert -Question called -motion carried.
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recent 10 days that I have been in contact with the Bureau concerning this problem on Penn'Street.I
would hope through some political pressure to Magnuson,to McCormack,to Jackson and through some
persuasion with the Army Engineers that we might seek some relief.The cost of that area to drain that
area from the Wheeler Street toward Highway 171 or East Broadway,according to a fast calculation is
$300,000.Now'Uhose people up there just aren't going to have that kind of money to save that property.
We are going to have to seek some kind of relief for them.I hope that we can come with an answer for
you in the near future that we have or are able to get some federal aid for that.
Skaug -The admission of this being Bureau water-would that also be applied to the outcropping that
contributes to all of Division Street water seepage ?
McLanahan -Yes sir.They claim that this is their water now.
Skaug -That could be perhaps an area of assist there,too.
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MAYOR -Gordon M.Ebbert
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